Question:
Am I doing the right thing?

I see all of the weight loss ads on TV and most of the time I find myself crying. If they can lose all of their weight by taking a pill and eating special meals prepared just for you, then why can't I just stop overeating everytime I turn around? Then I remember that most of them are paid celebrities and can afford to buy the expensive systems and hire a personal trainer. We are just the average to low income people and most of us are fortunate to have health insurance that cares enough about us to allow us this "luxury," whether you think of it as that or not. We are all taking a great chance with our lives by having this surgery done. There is a great deal of risk we are taking when we go ahead and have this surgery, no matter which type of surgery is done. Hopefully, the decision to have the surgery by each and every one of us, is for ourselves. I want to be around for all of our grandchildren as long as I possibly can, but with the way things are going now, every bite I take is one step closer to death. I suffer from obesity, diabetes II, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, depression, hypothyroidism, fibromyalgia, short term memory loss on occassion and am only 44 years old. I have had most of these problems for 10 years as of July this year. Our health, family, and friends are also a big factor in the decision. I struggle almost everyday, with the decisions I make about food. Our family is falling apart and I have a great deal of personal/family matters on my plate. I am going through depression right now and frustration with five of our six children, who continuously are making bad decisions. My husband (who has COPD) just starting smoking again as well as our 18 year old daughter and we have another daughter in the house that smokes. You don't know how bad I want to smoke a cigerette. I went outdoors the other day to find out where everyone was at. Guess what? There were five people in our backyard having a "smoking party." I came in the house, went to my office, and just started to cry, just like I am know doing while writing this. I want to smoke really bad, but know if I do, it really will be the wrong thing and I am not great on willpower. I really don't know what is keeping me from smoking at this time, but maybe it is God. I just wish I could refrain from eating, like I can with smoking. I do not have a surgery date as yet, but have completed all of the pre-op neccessities, except for one more pysch appt on 06/20. According to my insurance, I have until August to get the surgery completed before my approval runs out. I am going to have the lapband surgery done by Dr. Sudan in Omaha, NE. I am getting scared about all of this, but at the same time I am hoping that I have made the right decision. I have good days and bad days when it comes to eating and know that I will have to make a severe lifestyle change after the surgery. I have days that I could care less about what I eat and eat whatever I feel like eating. I had lost about 15 pounds over about a month, but then gained most of it back. Exercise is really hard for me to do. I suffered a severe back injury in January 2007 and ruptured 4 discs in my lower back and according to the neurosurgeon, surgery would probably not help this as they can only fuse two discs at this time. This prevents me from exercising like I should as the increased activity sends excrutiating pain down my legs or irriates my back. I haven't found any exercise that works for me. I was doing 200 crunches a day, but that really sent my back in an uproar and ended up missing work because of it. I am know down to doing 10 reps in the morning and 10 reps in the evening and can do that without a whole lot of pain. Walking any long distances causes great pain in my lower back, hips, and legs. I usually try to walk about 12 blocks a couple times a week and that's about all I can handle. I just need to know that there is someone else out there that maybe having second thoughts or frustrations or confusion. I guess I just feel like I am a basket case and not sure if I will be able to go through with this surgery. Our insurance will pay for all of the cost as we have met our deductible for the year, so that is not the issue at all. I am really lucky that we have very good insurance.    — mrsj4ata (posted on June 6, 2008)


June 6, 2008
You know, it's such a personal decision that no one can tell you if you're doing the right thing or not. My surgery is set for July 11th, so I can't give you support from the post op perspective but I can from the pre-op perspective. All I can say is that you are going to feel soooo much better after you've lost some weight. I have struggled with my weight all my life and this is the right decision, even though I'm a little scared, in my heart I know it's right. I'll be happier after! Try to go to some support group meetings, that will make you feel at ease. They helped me! Good Luck!
   — Kar708

June 6, 2008
My heart goes out to you..I can feel your pain and confusion and your sense of helplessness and hopelessness but dont give up..I was there..right where you are, before and after the surgery..it is a part of life but having the surgery helped me deal with alot of my medical issues.I was on 9 different medications had numerous health problems...all corrected by the surgery and I do not regret it one minute.I had to learn to love me and take care of me first and foremost. Let them have a smoking party..you cant add it to your already too full plate..smoking you can do without, but remember..food is a necessity in life.We cant choose NOT to eat..we have to eat.But we can make healthy choices about what we eat.I stumble and I struggle EVERYDAY..am an alcoholic..am 37 an just had a wonderful baby boy and two lovely daughters that looked up to me with pride and I have managed to crush their idea of how great I was..just by drinking...I struggle everyday not to drink..this has been going on for a year..an I usually feel like a failure but I give myself credit for the good things I do for myself and you should too..some days you will eat down the house..ok..it was a ruff day, brush yourself off and start again the next day..never quit trying..if you quit trying..you start dying.My sister died at 718lbs because she gave up and quit trying..we dont have to do that.i feel I have failed because I have gained back weight post op, but that is why am here..for support from all of you and to continue trying. Honey, I hope that all the positive feedback you get on this site will lift your spirits as it do mine..we all have our battles, personal, financial and emotional..but we also all have each other..
   — caymanbabe

June 6, 2008
Teresa, First of all those people on Biggest loser and other clerbrities that you see are not you and me. We have real issues, and at 62 I have tried everything they have. I only failed at one thing in my life that I wanted to do and that was lose weight the normal way. Guess what, there is no normal way. Your are lucky that your insurance pays for the surgery. Mined after two years gave me approval, and my doctor changed hospitals, so I got re-approval, and they took the opportunity to decline me. I sued them and lost! I had to pay cash. You got insurance that is going to pay so thank God, you have that option. Now God help those who help them selves. You have posted so many iussues I would have to write a reply twice as long as your inquire to answer everything. Let's start with this. Tonight go have a pain on your right side and you go to the hospital and they tell you you have to have your appendex out or you will be dead by morning. Are you going to think about it. Is my co-pay been ment for the year? Do I have the surgery or should I just go home and die? Dumb question, but RNY and Lab Band WLS is no different. It is the same cut and they are working in the same area. There is the same risk. No you are not going to die today from being overweight. But have you been to an old folks home lately? I have, and you know what I noticed. There are no overweight people there. DId they go there fat and get put on a diet that works? No all the fat ones are dead! So, you and I are risking our life and the opportunity to see your childeren get married, and see your grandkids, and see your grand kids graduate and get married and maybe a few of them will have great grandkids you could have seen, if you just go signed up on this life saving program and started today to turn your life arond with Gods help and support, and the support of your family and freinds. I have to be so direct, but some one needs to help you see the light. 8 weeks after surgery you will not beleive you questioned doing it, but we have all been where you are. Now, real quick, I need to tell you I had type two Diabities for 25 years, I took insulin and 19 drugs for high blood pressure, high colestrol and diabities. Did those drugs cure it? No, and if it was not for this surgery, and I am glad to tell you more of how RNY WLS will cure these issues for you as it did for me, but you need to write me off line, as I miss my spell checker for these longer messages. I can tell you that after 1 month, I did not take insulin and I only took one of the 19 drugs, Syntroid for thyroid which surgery will not cure. No big deal, I am a happy camper. First of all with depression before, you might not get past the nut doctor that has to pass on you, so get to your family doctor and get him to give you the generaice drug for Lexapro or something to help you before you take that step. There is often depression following the surgery, and it happens to all of us on diets. The weight loss changes your chemical balance and depression is common. The other issue is that you have an addition and giving up one can cause others, so that is why they check you out so much up front. THis is not just cut and you lose, you have to work at it, but the nice thing is cheating can make you sick and if you get sick once, you most likely will not do that again. I was 6 months yesterday, and I have lost over 100 Lbs. I am very happy, glad that I gave up trying to cure myself with diets that did not work, and glad that my cardatoligest told me I was the oldest fat patient he had, as the other guy, age 66 dies last week. Hard to hear, but he also wrote a recomendation for me for the surgery, and I ready it before handing it to my surgeon. He said there was a lot of risk I could go to sleep for surgery and not wake up, but he also said that he expected without the surgery, I had 3-4 more years before I passed. At first glance I though Pass way, and then it hit me. He ment I was going to die. I started being able after surger to walk a block, and this sunday I will do my third 10 mile walk on the beach. The first time, I finished last, the second time I finished 9th out of 25 and this time, I hope to finish first! You can do it, best of success to you. Send me your email addiress and sign on to join my freinds as I am glad to help, any way that I can, but there were a lot of people on the interent for me and I am glad to help those that I can as well.
   — William (Bill) wmil

June 6, 2008
I think it would help best if at this point and time in your life you concentrate on your self. The rest of the family can smoke and eat or what ever they want to do. Just take the next few months for yourself. If you are like me it has been a long time since you have done this. Also if there is a pool close by see if they have a time for exercise classes. This is easier on your body and very relaxing to be in the water. Just a thought. Hope all goes well and you get a date soon. The sooner you began to change your life the sooner the people around you see that maybe they should change also. If not know that you are doing the right thing for you. Tina
   — tinajohn

June 6, 2008
"Am I doing the right thing?" is a question that is asked by everyone on this site and/or contemplating having life changing surgery. Each of us has to answer that question for ourselves but I can tell you that I, for one would have it no other way because my life has become so much better for it. Seeing people on TV doing it with pills etc. does NOT mean it's the right way for you...or for everyone. The weight was not put on over night and will not come off as such either.(It's been shown that people who lose the weight through these methods tend to regain it and more because they really don't take things seriously and still hold on to bad habits.) Even the surgery is a TOOL to use to HELP get and keep the weight off. Even with the surgery, it's a life style change but a great one. The surgery gives you a starting point and a handle on will power, but the desire for CHANGE has to come from within YOU. As I said before, all of us here at Obesity Help are struggling with the question of "AM I doing the right thing? Which surgery is best for me? " and other questions. That's a healthy range of emotions to have. You've taken the first steps, you'll do well and once you have the other pysch eval. on 6/20 ( talk it through with the therapist) you'll find that you're in a better place to really take that final step. Having the surgery and watching the weight come off will be motivation in itself. Another motivation will be feeling so much better and having more freedom of movement then you've ever imagined. You'll be able to accomplish things you once though impossible. You aren't going through this alone. You have a whole family here at Obesity Help that is ready and willing to give support to this important journey in your life.
   — Leprechaun

June 6, 2008
Teresa, I understand, but you have to concentrate on yourself. I hear you about the celebrities and their diet, but look at what they have at their finger tips and look at them after the weight loss, most gain back...The exercising I do because of metal rods and screws in my back and two knee replacements, diabetes, high blood pressure,I am bipolar, depression, heart disease and some other stuff, is water aerobics and that works great. I had lap band 4-16-08 and that is the surgery for me. I wanted gastric bypass but couldn't have it because when they did the testing on me they found a Pulomarny Embolism and my cardiologist said no but I am happy with the lap band..I have lost 30 pounds and I am feeling better. All of us around OH has a food addiction and that is what we are taking care of now, you are not alone. Sometimes now, I think, can I do this and I answer myself yes I can and the band helps me. It is a lifestyle change and you can do it..Doubting yourself is there sometimes and when you have it, you think this is great...look what I have done because I am feeling so good... Good Luck, whatever you decide.
   — dyates2948

June 6, 2008
I feel your pain and I agree with alot of the others. Worry about you first this time! Everything else will fall into place and worrying isn't going to solve anything except elevate your blood pressure and so on. My advice is to speak with a counselor or therapist about your concerns. This will help ALOT! Food is an addiction and may have been a trade off for the smoking. So when the ability to satisfy yourself with food is gone, it may be something else that replaces it. (Drinking, smoking, gambling, shopping or sometimes sex) So find out what is "driving" you and how to "Kick it's Butt" before it drives you crazy with confusion. I had surgery February of 2007 and am still discovering myself, BUT very happy with the decision to have the surgery. Good Luck and KNOW we are always here for you!!!
   — Toni Todd

June 6, 2008
God bless. I can hear so much fear in your message. Try not to be so hard on yourself. Please understand that surgery of any kind can put you at risk for complications. I don't believe wls can put you in any more danger than another major operation. I'm concerned yes. However, I put my trust and faith in GOD, because I truly believe that doctors get their wisdom and knowledge from GOD and He can direct us to the right medical procedure. You have the wisdom to research the different procedures, now use your gut feelings and go with what you know is right. If we had all the will-power, then where is the need to pray or reach out to other people for help, and to ask GOD's guidance in our life. Thank GOD giving you the mind to have this surgery, insurance to pay, and this website to encourage you. There are alot of people who want this procedure, but can't afford to pay for it. It is time to stop looking at other people and what they are doing, worry about yourself. Use this tool that GOD's has provided for us. Go forward--don't look back.
   — Toby2

June 6, 2008
Teresa: First, you are correct in saying that the paid celebrities have HELP in losing the weight and thus have an advantage. They are also usually NOT as severely overweight as the average American. I am, or WAS in a similar situation to you. I too, have a bad back. It is not as bad as yours. I also suffer from fibromyalgia, diabetes, depression, and hypothyroidism. I also suffer from severe migraines, arthritis, a spastic colon and chronic diarrhea. I have had the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy on March 1, 2008. In the time since then I have lost over 65 pounds and have had MANY of my symptoms have been either completely eliminated or severely reduced. The ONLY side effects have been POSITIVE! I have had to DROP all of my diabetes meds! I was taking 70 to 80 units of 70/30 Humulin a day with an occasional booster of REGULAR insulin, sometimes up to 5 units of the regular insulin, to keep my blood sugar level BELOW 200! I was also taking 4 pills of glucovance 5/500 a day. In 3 WEEKS I had dropped EVERYTHING but ONE PILL of glucovance! On Easter Day, I went to church with my family and AFTERWARD we went out with some of our CHURCH family and had a Barbecue. After the Barbecue, we came home and I started to get the shakes and the sweats. I KNEW those symptoms from when I was HYPOGLYCEMIC before I became a diabetic! My Blood Sugar was too low! I took out my testing kit and checked my blood sugar and sure enough it read at 53 points! Low NORMAL is 70! I quickly got something sweet to eat (some fruit) and got my blood sugar back up into normal range. At that time I realized that I would have to forgo the LAST pill of glucovance because it was TOO MUCH MEDICATION! I ran the risk of putting myself into a diabetic COMA if I kept taking the pills! My wife is a Nurse Practitioner and had been advising me on my medication levels during my whole transition. My needs had been changing so quickly that my physician would not have been able to keep up with the changes at the rate things were changing. To get an appointment would take longer than most of the changes were taking. I have not used any diabetes medication since that day. I have been keeping an eye on my blood sugars and as long as I stick with the recommended diet and don't cheat. As long as I stay away from refined sugars and refined wheat products and eat my proteins first, my blood sugar levels stay between 114 to 140 after meals. This is MUCH better than the OVER 200 that I was having BEFORE the surgery! I have also had improvements with my Arthritis (almost completely GONE), my FibroMyalgia (the pain is significantly reduced), my Migraines (the pain and frequency have been both reduced), my Spastic Colon (it seems to have been completely calmed), my Chronic Diarrhea (also completely eliminated--it was probably tied to the Spastic Colon), and my Chronic Fatigue (I have significantly MORE energy than I did before). The VSG has been the THIRD best thing that has ever happened to me in my LIFE! The FIRST was my MARRIAGE (I must give the CREDIT for the surgery to my WIFE, it was HER idea). The SECOND best thing that has ever happened to me was the birth of my CHILDREN! The VSG comes in a close third. I am including some research that I have done on the various types of weight loss surgery available. I feel it is VERY important for a person to be FULLY informed of their options when looking at weight loss surgery. Take this for what it's worth. I am telling you up front that I am NOT an "Expert" on Weight Loss Surgery. I am just a PATIENT that has done some research. I encourage EVERYONE to RESEARCH EACH surgical option FOR THEMSELVES! THIS is the information that I have found in MY research. I have posted it here for you in an effort to help GUIDE and you help you START your OWN journey into your OWN research. There are a LOT of differences in the different types of surgical procedures. There are a LOT of differences in different SURGEONS. Some surgeons require more of their patients than others. Some PROCEDURES require more of the patient than others. You need to do some research and find the BEST fit for YOU. I just had a Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy on March 1, 2008. My surgeon did NOT require me to lose weight. I had a BMI of 43.6. Now that isn't NEARLY as bad as many people. Had I been HEAVIER, he may HAVE required it. I don't know. What I CAN tell you is that I was having problems with arthritis in my knees and my shoulder. That was almost three months ago. Now it is GONE. There is just a TWINGE every now and again but NOTHING NEAR the constant agony that I was in before! I was also a Diabetic 3 months ago. I have had to DROP all of my diabetes medications on Easter Day because the ONE glucovance pill that I was taking caused me to have my blood sugar to DROP to 53 POINTS! My sugars are still a LITTLE high, but under 150 (usually between 114 to 140 after a meal) and WITHOUT medication! In a FEW weeks with some MORE weight loss, I figure that my diabetes will be in COMPLETE remission! I have lost 59 pounds in a little over 2 MONTHS with my surgery (the VSG) and it was done WITHOUT feeling HUNGRY! From what I have learned, your MAIN options are the Lap Band, the Vertical Banded Gastroplasty, the Gastric Bypass, The Duodenal Switch and the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy. There are other options, I am sure, but these are the most common that I have found. There are also combinations of these options ALSO available such as the Banded Duodenal Switch, the Banded Gastric Bypass, and the Banded Sleeve Gastrectomy. The Banded options are basically the same as the Regular surgeries but they have a Lap Band added as additional insurance in case of future need. The Lap Band: (http://www.obesityhelp.com/content/wlsurgery.html#LapBand) is well known. It basically squeezes the stomach to make it smaller and creates a pouch with a restriction at the top of the stomach which fills quickly and empties slowly. The advantages of this surgery are that it is reversible if needed and it is adjustable if needed. It is a HIGHLY flexible procedure. This surgery is well known and accepted by many insurance companies. It may be best for people who have a history of cancer either themselves or in their family and may need to take chemo-therapy and for women in childbearing years who may become pregnant. There are also other reasons for wanting this type of surgery, but I don't want to spend ALL day writing this. There is an effective Excess body weight loss over 3 to 5 years of 50% to 60% noted in some studies. The PROBLEM with this option is that there are sometimes complications with this device. Some people have a reaction to the foreign object in their body. People with immune issues should NOT have this device. Lupus and MS patients for example, can have a reaction to the foreign body and it may trigger an immune system response. Other issues with the Lap Band are that it is common for the band to "Slip" on the stomach and cause the pouch to enlarge thus causing the person with the device to eat more and negating the purpose of the surgery. Some surgeons have started stitching the band to the stomach to prevent this from happening. It would be wise to ask your surgeon if you are considering this option if he does this. Other times people have learned to "Eat around the Band" and force the food PAST the band to fill up the rest of the stomach and thus defeat the purpose of the band. Actually, this is an issue with ALL weight loss surgeries. All can be defeated by a patient who is either ignorant or intent on doing so. It seems to be MORE common with the Banded options, however. Another issue with Banded options is that occasionally the bands will erode the outside lining of the stomach causing damage to the stomach that often needs repairs and calls for a removal of the band and or a revision to some other type of weight loss option. This happens in about less than 1% of the Lap Band Surgeries but it IS something that needs to be taken into consideration. In the Vertical Banded Gastroplasty: (http://www.obesityhelp.com/content/wlsurgery.html#VBG) (commonly known as stomach stapling) the surgeon makes a cut into the stomach to create a pouch. He sews the pouch and places a band at the bottom of the pouch. This banded option has less chance of the band slipping since the cut in the stomach holds it into place. It also has the advantage of being somewhat reversible but is not as easily reversible as the Lap Band. It is NOT as well known as it's more famous banded cousin, the Lap Band. There may be difficulties in getting this option with some insurance companies. It has many of the advantages and disadvantages of the Lap Band surgery with the exception that the Band does not tend to slip and let the pouch expand. The Gastric Bypass: ( http://www.obesityhelp.com/content/wlsurgery.html#RNY) is made when the surgeon cuts the TOP of the stomach off and creates a pouch. An OLDER version of this surgery left the stomach intact but had a line of staples that was used to create the pouch. This method is no longer in use much, if at all. The surgeon then takes a length of intestine and BYPASSES it. He takes the LOOSE end that is still attached to the intestines and sews it to the SIDE of the pouch that was created from the TOP of the stomach. The BYPASSED intestine is then attached to the side of the intestine that was connected to the pouch so that BILE from the bile duct can empty bile from the liver into the intestine. This option is often the DARLING of insurance companies. Many companies that won't pay for any OTHER Weight Loss Surgeries will pay for THIS one. THAT makes THIS surgery quite popular for many surgeons! This surgery has the advantage of being a HIGHLY effective tool in the arsenal of weapons against the foe obesity! It has an effective rate of weight loss and maintenance of 60 to 80% in some studies at 1 to 2 years. The DOWNSIDE of this weight loss option is that there issues of malabsorption of minerals and vitamins due to the bypassed intestine. This often leaves the patient reliant on his doctor for the special supplements required to maintain his or her health. Other issues are dumping, nausea, and vomiting. Dumping is basically when you have diarrhea that is caused by the intestine's inability to absorb the food that was eaten. Along with the diarrhea can come intestinal cramping, sweating, palpitations and other unpleasant side effects. Some people experience dumping with sweets. Others experience it with fats. Each person seems to have their own issues but whatever they are, they cause them to excrete the food that they ate before it was fully digested. Nausea and vomiting, while experienced by many in ALL weight loss surgeries is NOT experienced by ALL. It does seem to be MORE PREVALENT in the GASTRIC BYPASS and DUODENAL SWITCH patients according to the research that I have seen. The gas and foul smelling stool are also a result of the shortened digestive process due to the bypassed intestine in both the Gastric Bypass and the Duodenal Switch. There is also something called the "Mini Gastric Bypass" This was quite popular a while back but there where problems that were soon discovered that KEPT the procedure from becoming a popular option. You can read MORE about this procedure at this location: http://ezinearticles.com/?Mini-Gastric-Bypass---The-Ideal-Weight-Loss-Solution&id=361143 . This is a direct copy of the entry for the post on the Mini Gastric Bypass in the section defining the procedure under the Variations of the Gastric Bypass in WikiPedia. The quote begins here: "Loop Gastric bypass ("Mini-gastric bypass"): The first use of the gastric bypass, in 1967, used a loop of small bowel for re-construction, rather than a Y-construction as is prevalent today. Although simpler to create, this approach allowed bile and pancreatic enzymes from the small bowel to enter the esophagus, sometimes causing severe inflammation and ulceration of either the stomach or the lower esophagus. If a leak into the abdomen occurs, this corrosive fluid can cause severe consequences. Numerous studies show the loop reconstruction (Billroth II gastrojejunostomy) works more safely when placed low on the stomach, but can be a disaster when placed adjacent to the esophagus. Thus even today thousands of "loops" are used for general surgical procedures such as ulcer surgery, stomach cancer and injury to the stomach, but bariatric surgeons abandoned use of the construction in the 1970s, when it was recognized that its risk is not justified for weight management. The Mini-Gastric Bypass, which uses the loop reconstruction, has been suggested as an alternative to the Roux en-Y procedure, due to the simplicity of its construction, which reduced the challenge of laparoscopic surgery. It is claimed that construction of a long tubular gastric pouch reduces the risk of inflammatory complications, and renders it as safe as the RNY technique." While it has been CLAIMED that the change to a longer tubular Gastric pouch reduces the risk of inflammatory complications, there is little research that PROVES it. If you are interested in having this procedure done, keep this in mind. The entry for Gastric Bypass in WikiPedia can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_bypass_surgery . Here is a short animation that shows what is done for the Mini Gastric Bypass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQPLF9IjtI . The Duodenal Switch: (http://www.obesityhelp.com/content/wlsurgery.html#DS ) is the STRONGEST tool in this arsenal of weapons! Many surgeons think it shouldn't be used lightly and often only recommend the procedure for people with a body mass index OVER 50! In the Duodenal Switch, the surgeon REMOVES approximately 85% of the stomach including MOST of the region of the stomach that produces the hormone grehlin. Grehlin is one of the hormones that create HUNGER. Removing the section of the stomach that creates hunger is a HUGE feature of this procedure. The surgeons then sew the rest of the stomach back together and create a tube shaped stomach that resists stretching. The stomach varies in size depending on the surgeon and the patient but can be anywhere from 2 ounces to 6 ounces, perhaps more. The next step of this procedure involves bypassing the intestine just like in the Gastric Bypass. Instead of attaching the intestine to the SIDE of the stomach, it is attached to the BOTTOM of the stomach where the intestine used to exit. The bypassed intestine is then sewn at one end near the liver and the far end of the intestine is sewn to the intestine that was attached to the stomach to pass bile to the intestines as it does in the gastric bypass. This procedure is MORE efficient than the Gastric Bypass in losing weight. This option has an effective rate of weight loss and maintenance of 70 to 90% in those same studies. The downside when compared to the Gastric Bypass is that Insurance companies often do not know of this option and are often reluctant to pay for it. This option has many of the same issues as the Gastric Bypass. There are some severe malabsorption issues. There are often issues with dumping, nausea, vomiting, GERD (acid reflux), gas and foul smelling stools. Many surgeons have been reluctant to perform this surgery due to the severity of the complications that can arise. This is why it is often reserved for those who are considered severely morbidly obese. Many surgeons had looked for an alternative to this surgery which lead to what was initially considered a "Half Duodenal Switch" or as it later became known, the "Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy." The Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy: (http://www.obesityhelp.com/content/wlsurgery.html#VSG) (if you get the same picture as the Vertical Banded Gastroplasty, just scroll UP) is a GREAT tool to use in the fight against obesity. While not QUITE as effective as the Duodenal Switch, it is often JUST as effective as the Gastric Bypass without the severity of the side effects of EITHER of those two options. The Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy initially started as an attempt to create a safer Duodenal Switch alternative. While early attempts were not as successful in weight loss reduction, this was mainly due to the fact that the surgeons were relying on the larger size stomach often used for the Duodenal Switch patients who often rely on the "Switch" part of the surgery for some of the weight loss. Once the surgeons started reducing the size of the STOMACH, the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy became a much more effective tool at helping the patient loose weight. In the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy, the stomach is cut and approximately 85% of it is removed. Just like the Duodenal Switch, most of the cells that produce the hormone grehlin are removed. This eliminates most of the hunger that the patient used to have, if not all of it. The stomach that is made from what is left is turned into a tube that is resistant to stretching. This tube is often designed to hold from 2 to 4 ounces of food or liquid. At this point the surgery is complete. The surgeons just need to close up and the patient needs to recover. The upside to this surgery is that it is simple and has one of the LOWEST rates of complications of all the weight loss surgeries. It also has one of the HIGHEST rates of excess weight loss with one study in California coming in starting at 58% to 77.9% loss in a ONE to TWO year study and one doctor in England reporting that 100% of his patients had a weight loss and maintenance OVER 70% at 6 YEARS of living with the Sleeve. He also reported that patients with hypertension, diabetes, impaired glucose tolerance, obstructive sleep apnea, asthma, or arthritis were all cured or improved after surgery. It has also been said that this is the ONLY recommended option for people with immune system problems. People with diseases like Lupus or MS can have this procedure because there is NO foreign object placed in their body. This also is one of the few recommended options for people with organ transplants. People with transplants need their intestines to metabolize their anti rejection medications. There are possible issues with GERD in this surgery as there are with the Duodenal Switch There are NO malabsorption issues with this surgery. There are NO additional foul odors. There is NO additional intestinal gas. While nausea and vomiting is common in ALL weight loss surgeries, it is NO MORE PREVALENT in the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy than in most of the other options. If needed, the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy can be easily converted to a Duodenal Switch should additional Weight Loss measures need to be taken at a later date. This act is called a "Revision." Having your Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy converted to a Duodenal Switch would be said to be having a, "Revision of your Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy to a Duodenal Switch." The Biggest DOWNSIDE to the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy is that it is considered "Experimental" by many insurance companies. While it has not been practiced HERE in the US as a weight loss option for very long (about 5 years or so) it has been done for QUITE a while in Central and South America and in Europe for quite some time. The surgery has been used HERE in the US for OTHER reasons for QUITE a while. It has been used QUITE effectively to treat stomach cancers and ulcers with good effect. These treatments have been done in the US for quite some time. There is a NEW option that is being explored for people that have had the RNY that may be expanded to include OTHER weight loss surgical options and possibly be used to REPLACE them in the future if it becomes approved for that use. This new option is called stomaphyX. The stomaphyX surgery basically takes a post down the INSIDE of the stomach and then FOLDS the stomach in upon ITSELF and makes the available volume INSIDE the stomach SMALLER. There is NO CUTTING on the abdomen or anywhere ELSE. All of the surgery is done through the esophagus. None of the stomach is removed or cut. At the moment, from what I have been able to find according to MY research, the device is only approved for use with Gastric Bypass patients to help make their existing pouches smaller. Permission is being sought to expand the device's use to other types of weight loss surgeries and for use on patients that have NOT had weight loss surgery but to be used in PLACE of traditional weight loss surgery. From what I have been able to find, this device has not been approved for this use yet. To find out MORE about this option go to this link: http://www.themorbidme.com/2007/09/stomaphyx-incis.html . Options for getting surgeries that are not paid for by insurance can be found if you are persistent. You can sometimes petition the company and get them to reconsider with a doctor's explanation. You can also self pay or take out a loan. Many times, the surgeries are cheaper in Mexico or other central or South American countries. Do some research to find your options. Not every surgery is going to be right for every person. Frankly, for ME, if I were an obese male with a BMI under 50 (which I am) or an obese woman NOT of child bearing age, I would choose the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy (which I DID). If I were an obese male with a BMI OVER 50, I would get the Duodenal Switch. If my insurance company would not COVER it, I would get the Sleeve. If not THAT, then the Gastric Bypass. I would keep working my way down the list until I found SOMETHING that I could get. If the insurance company wouldn't pay, I would try to take out a LOAN (this is actually what my wife did for me). If I were a WOMAN of child bearing years or a person facing the possibility of chemotherapy or some other health issues that would require periods when I would NEED more sustenance, I would want the flexibility of the Lap Band. The short of it is, Do YOUR RESEARCH and CHOOSE the right surgical option for YOU! If you can't get ONE option for a reason, at least get another! For the sake of yourself and the ones you love, do SOMETHING to fix the problem before it is too late. If you die due to health problems caused by obesity, it is TOO LATE! Whatever surgical option you choose, for whatever REASON you choose, we are ALL here for the same reason. We are here to HELP and BE HELPED. Please, let's respect each other. There are those on the OH boards that consider themselves to be "Experts." Most of these folks do not have any medical experience. They are patients just like me. It is best to take any advice you get on the OH boards with a grain of salt (if not the whole cellar). Some folks have a severe bias towards or against certain surgeries. There are folks who will TELL you that the surgery you are considering is WRONG and is BOUND to fail! IGNORE these people. Not every surgery is right for every person! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and and CONSULT with your PHYSICIAN or your SURGEON! I cannot stress the importance of doing your own research enough. There is a revised version of this post at my profile page. I have added some links to some web sites that have some interviews with some surgeons that perform weight loss surgeries and have videos that actually SHOW the surgeries. You can watch the surgeries being performed and get many of your questions answered by the surgeons as they explain what they are doing. They explain the positives and negatives of each procedure. My Profile page can be found HERE: http://www.obesityhelp.com/member/hubarlow/ . Look for a post called Surgical Comparisons. If you can't find the post on the profile page, look for the post in the March Archives. I hope this helps, Hugh
   — hubarlow

June 6, 2008
I would reccomend going to your local YMCA and join a water aerbics class and it won't hurt your painful back. AS to the smoking make the kids go far away from the house to have a cigarette. Far enough that you don't see them. Thats going to make you want to have one. .I can't even walk 10 feet but I go in the pool and do my execrise everyday. It makes my fibromyalgia much better. Good luck, Dawn
   — [Deactivated Member]

June 6, 2008
You ARE doing the right thing. Some of us just love food too much and cannot maintain a healthy weight because of the addiction to food. I LOVE my lap band!It has changed my life and it will change yours. When you lose the weight and start moving around more, your self esteem will skyrocket.You will not let people walk all over you anymore and you will start taking care of YOURSELF and your needs. Since my lapband, I have gone from a size 26 to a 12 and still losing.I am training for a 60 mile walk for breast cancer.I have gone back to colllege to finish my degree, I don't take crap from my bosses anymore and they seem to like me more now. I don't put up with crap from my husband or my son and they know it. I am not a 'bitch' now, but I do stand up for myself and do what is right for me. Stay strong with the no smoking.... make everyone go outside to smoke. I make my husband go outside and he cannot smoke in my car, even when I am not in it. I am an EX smoker and plan to stay that way. It could cause a problem with the anesthesia if you re-start. Good Luck!
   — pattyann

June 6, 2008
Have yo ever had a sleep study conducted on you? You may have sleep apnea and could be a good part of some of your symptoms- depression, memory loss, etc. Also you should look into water aerobics- that is great for people who can't do the "regular" routine stuff and it is easy on your joints. I think you are doing the right thing. You have the laundry list of issues that go along with obesity and most if not all of those will either disappear or reduce greatly after surgery. As for your family- you need to focus on you and your health or you can;t be a good example or any good to your family if you aren;t right in the head. So I say go for it and go to all the counselig and support groups around. It will change your life. Hope this helps Andrea
   — millamename

June 6, 2008
Theresa, I want to give you a big hug and tell you it will get better. First, have you considered water exercise? It would be gentler on your back and give you the resistance you need to burn calories. Second, find a support group close to home and be able to really talk about all the issues that are impacting your life right now. You do have willpower, as you have not joined in the smoke party in your yard. Third, it may sound selfish but put you and your needs first. You can not solve everyone else's problems in you family, only your's. Work on you and set the example for everyone else to step to the plate. You are young to have this many other diagnosis related to obesity. I have many of the same diagnosis and I too want to be a spry 80 yr old running around with my grand children. I want to recommend a book to you that made a great impact on my life 9 yrs ago. Cheryl Richardson's "Take Time for Your Life". It helps to focus your scattered thoughts and set goals. Read it through first then go back and read it with highlighter and post it notes to digest it. It really helps. Jackie
   — Boggma

June 6, 2008
Try something new and exciting, worry about a very special person in this world, YOU. You want to be around to enjoy a long life see the great things weight loss has to offer. You are a strong person to even get this far, go for it, don't give up. You will be a better and healthier person because of it. God Bless and be strong.
   — Ira Sansolo

June 7, 2008
Please look carefully at the small print on the TV and in the magazine adds....They ALL say "RESULTS NOT TYPICAL" ... People dump a lot of their money into these magical cures and it doesn't work for most of us. I had most of your medical conditions pre-surgery 3 1/2 years ago...I now weigh 160 pounds...I'm still overweight, but all my health issues are a thing of the past...I only take medicine for Hypothyroid now...and the vitamins to keep me healthy. I would do it all again in a minute...my outlook is so much better. You cannot take care of everyone else if you aren't taking care of yourself...Kids, no matter how well you do with them, are going to be a trial. Spouses too... For me, surgery was the right thing and it has made all the difference in my view of things. I am on top of my problems because I have the energy to deal with them. Take care of you....then you'll be ble to manage the other stuff....Good luck! Allee
   — AlleeM

June 7, 2008
i know one thing reading all your letter. Im 67 years old. came from council bluffs iowa, I had rny in 2005 it saved my life. I highly recomend you do it as soon as you can my only regret is i did not get it sooner. God bless yu
   — sybiliowa

June 7, 2008
Wow, you certainly have enough to deal with already. Tell your family that this is time for you!! Not everyone's insurance will cover this surgery so you are one of the luckier ones. Make sure you mention all this stress to your psych doctor when you go, there are meds that can help you feel better and if you're already on them you might need your meds changed. You need to make sure you are doing this for yourself because obviously your family is not where you are going to get your support. I think everyone has second thoughts about a surgery you don't have to have but this is what I think of...I will need another stress test for my heart and I thought I was dying with the first, I will need an angiogram that I'm sure I don't want. I have to take meds every day of my life for my diabetes, high cholesterol and depression. I'll gladly swap those for some protein and vitamins. Of all the things I already do that I don't want, if this surgery delays needing even more done, then I'm all for it. All of my family dies in their late 50's/early 60's. I want to be older than that and I think this surgery is going to help me get there. Good luck on your own journey! I think it will it worth it!! Mary :)
   — Mary714

June 8, 2008
Hi Sweetie! You have insurance coverage.... you are in PAIN... Know you need to do something..... right? OK no need being a basket case dealing with the thought of surgery, just do it! YOU are worth it and we get one shot at life. Everything in life is temporary even a little pain... so go for it! Good Luck and Keep in touch...Hugs, Michele
   — Supermom2008

June 9, 2008
Hi sweetie......I see that you've touched a lot of us who had similar feelings and want to reach out to you ande support you. They are right....do it for you...it will turn your life around. I also had bad back, (spinal stenosis) that I couldn't relieve, awful pain in my knees, hips, ankles, toes......I couldn't walk more than a few feet without stopping, and water exercise did no good......I could do some of it but was totally crippled the next day so that I couldn't function. I was on a variety of meds for pain, heart palpitations, high blood pressure, etc........the pain meds made me slow and sleepy but didn't do much for the pain. I was afraid of surgery, too. I went to weight-focused group therapy and private therapy for years, and lost and regained 100+ pounds over and over. I had the RNY at Barix Clinic in Langhorne PA on 11/14/06. I have lost 148 lbs, including the weight I lost pre-op (still have about 40 to go). It was the best thing I've ever done. I feel strongly that the lap band is not the best choice for someone with so many other issues, like you....also like me. The RNY is more forceful in encouraging behavior modification, and a stronger deterrent to having an 'I don't care' episode. (my opinion and one of my big issues) It's hard to stay motivated over the long amount of time it takes to lose the weight, feel better and change lifelong bad habits. I had to really ease into exercise, and still am moderate about it. I am just now able to walk any distance, as well as function around the house with things like vacuuming, mopping and gardening. DON'T worry about the exercise until you feel better. Also, I totally recommend getting into one-on-one therapy for help with the underlying reasons for eating and turning to food for comfort. These issues don't go away, and you have to know how to deal with them when food is no longer an option......sometimes a good cry is the thing that works. I urge you to take the step, and to TAKE CARE OF YOU......YOU ARE WORTH IT !! Please keep us posted on your thoughts and the steps you take. We are all here to support YOU.
   — nwheat

June 9, 2008
Teresa - Put down everyone else's emotional/physical baggage. You are like me in the fact that you are trying to "fix" everyone's problems and you can't. It's a hard fact to accept but with work you can do it. The only problems you can fix are your own. Your going to have to accept that no matter how much your family is causing themselves problems you can't fix it. Your husband is aware of what his smoking does. Tell him that you're NOT going to feel sorry for him if he does this to himself. Yes, we both know you'll be there for him but I personally think a little tough love is in order here. I've had the problems with kids and stuff and now I take care of what I can change. If something comes up that makes me want to fix it, I go off by myself and come to terms with it. You may need some antidepressants to help with this. Maybe just good old faith in God. As far as why you can't stop overeating like you have stopped smoking goes, that would work if you could stop EATING. If you had a drag off of a cigarette right now, do you think you would stop there? NOT! Nobody says that you have to do all your exercises in big groups. I mean 200 crunches a day. Come on girl, give yourself a break. Treat yourself like you would treat others. Think about what you would say to someone else if they had your questions. Most of the time we give great advice but don't allow ourselves the right to take it. Any type of movement is exercise. Do your crunches where it is comfortable along with your walking. You might also find that exercising in water is your best bet. It burns more calories than doing them on dry land and is fun. But most of all move. Once you loose some weight you'll find that it is extremely easier to do exercises and also you'll find that you'll want to move. Most of all - look ahead not behind. You CANNOT change the past. Won't happen. You CAN change YOUR future. You can find a better place for YOU mentally and emotionally. Reach for your stars girl.
   — VickiJ




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