Help; been having really bad 'gas pain?' attacks..

H.A.L.A B.
on 10/17/16 5:51 am

Yes. It often made me cry in pain... Mine did not last long...5-15 min... That's how we knew there may be narrowing somewhere ..the food would travel to that point - then the pain would start - intensify to pain that often made me cry...then once the pain your pass - the area was tander but not painful. 

When I went on all liquids for 2-3 days - the pain was not that... Also slider foods did not caused that much pain. But dense proteins, or food with fiber - and I was crying... 

I had days I only ate solid foods once a day.  It was either be hungry or in pain...30-60 min after I ate..

Low fat was worse... High fat allows things "to slide"...

Then I may have weeks with no pain. As if the intestine got free from hernia...then the pain would return. 

But - even if you have GB surgery - you may still have stones - they can form in the liver and get in file duct causing lot of pain. 

I now have very sensitive gut. Gas from fiber or food that can cause gas (i.a apples)  creates pressure in my intestine and pain. I have pills - sublingual -hyoscyamine- that really help with the gut twisting and hurting...

I don't recommend- but wine with food when I had the hernia worked better than any pills. However - that can lead to alcohol dependency.  But sometimes when we were out - a glass of wine with dinner really helped not only with the pain but also digestion and relaxed the gut allowing the food to pass. I don't recommend that...but I do that once in a while When I am eating out and can't control what is in my food. (garlic and onion causes a lot of cramps for me)  

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

rissa1224
on 10/17/16 8:16 am - NJ
VSG on 12/05/12

I have no breaths available to even cry, I literally can not breath. It feels as though someone is squeezing my insides (solar plexus area under my breasts) to my back. I am hunched over almost in a fetal position because the pain hurts to move, or even think of what to do. I cant breath. Breathing out is minimal to none, and trying to breath in is limited. I almost pass out from lack of breathing. It's awful and I almost went to the ER - again - from this. It has mostly happened during night time hours after I have eaten my last meal / snack. And everything I had that day was healthy. Shake. Veggies w/ small hummus. Salad for lunch with grilled chicken, and same for dinner. So I have no idea. No alcohol, no acidic or carbonated drinks. I have cut them out for the most part anyway. It's so scary and extremely painful and I cant breath and almost pass out from it.

       

    

Gwen M.
on 10/17/16 8:48 am
VSG on 03/13/14

I would be going to the ER if I had these symptoms.  It could be your heart, it could be anything.  There's a lot going on in that area.  

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

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rissa1224
on 10/17/16 10:09 am - NJ
VSG on 12/05/12

When I had to go to the ER back in Feb - they diagnosed me with GERD just to Discharge me because they had zero answer (and then I had a bad stomach bug so I was vomiting for almost 2 days after. Which then I was referred to the Gastro, whom did an endoscopy and here I am - unresolved.

       

    

Gwen M.
on 10/17/16 10:11 am
VSG on 03/13/14

Which is why I'd go back to ER.  You've had 8 additional months of symptoms including ruling out GERD from the GI doc.  So you can fight them when they try to discharge without a diagnosis, because you have continued symptoms and a ruling out of what they claimed.  

You've got to be your own best advocate here, which sometimes means being an asshole until you get a proper resolution.  

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

TrendWeight | Food Blog (sort of functional) | Journal (down for maintenance)

H.A.L.A B.
on 10/17/16 4:01 pm

Unfortunately most ER do not diagnose beyond things that are - can be life threatening. They give simple diagnose and send the person to a specialist.  

And if the pain is itermitent- and lasts 10 -30 min - they often don't do anything. Except taking copays..and refering the person to regular doc. 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

rissa1224
on 10/18/16 5:51 am - NJ
VSG on 12/05/12

Yep! I was there over 6 hours. Finally stopped the attacks (valium), had a CT scan because I demanded one. Saw the doctor after the 5th hour for .30 seconds (owe HIM $800 alone - still paying it), got dx with GERD, and referred to a Gastro.

       

    

H.A.L.A B.
on 10/17/16 8:54 am

Yeap. Breathing was a challenge during the attack. Learn shallow breathing...  Fetal position on a floor ...with fists stuck in my gut...after the atack.. Often would not dare touch my gut. 

Salads with chicken - that would have kill me.  I still don't eat salads. 

If in can sugest something - until you know what is going on - salads are too much fiber and difficult to digest - same with raw fruits. Or any raw veggies. 

For time being - try only slider - mushy food with some fat for lubrication.... Cooked veggies - low fiber foods and veggies... And lots and lots of water- drinks  in between meals...to push the food down... 

Make sure you are not constipated. That +constipation... Really bad idea... 

I was able to eat cooked carrots and sweet potatoes, with some cooked dark chicken meal... And added fat like avocado.. Fibrous veggies - they would take forever to pass the narrowing... Any grains - no way. 

Yogurt, mushy creamy soups....cottage cheese (not fat free) ...avocado is really great food... 

Even good protein drinks.. But add fat.  Think of fat as a lubrication.  Pain indicates thebtisdue is being stretched to a point of tearing.... You are damaging your intestine. Then they get swollen and gets more damaged causing more and more pain... I would do 2-3 days only clear and full liquids... And then maybe advance to more mushy food... Untill They can figure out what it is you are dealing with...

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

rissa1224
on 10/17/16 10:06 am - NJ
VSG on 12/05/12

Thanks for that. . You had RNY. I had VSG. I know RNYers that cant eat what I can tolerate. I cant tolerate watermelon, apples (with out PB), avocado. But that's about it. I will have to see what this Gastro says, and maybe reach out to a WLS surgeon (mine moved over an hour away and I cant trek there with 2 jobs).

       

    

H.A.L.A B.
on 10/17/16 4:09 pm

Good luck ... 

Btw - you can have a stone that formed in the liver and could travel in the bile duct... In that case - the more fat - the worse the pain - as the liver makes bile due to ingested fat and pushes the stone along.  

I lived with pain like that for a while. After my RNY in 4 years  I had additional 3 surgeries to fix my insides.. 

Good gastro may try to see if you have some gut spasms and try to treat that with meds.  Even now - with my IBS - I don't leave the house without my hyocamine pills.. 

 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

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